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2024 12 12 steering group minutes

Agenda:

  • NSF POSE proposal
  • BEP 28 : provenance
  • Maintainers Updates
  • BIDS email

Participants

  • Yaroslav Halchenko
  • Dora Hermes
  • Kim Ray
  • Ross Blair
  • Camille Maumet

NSF POSE proposal

  • scraped:

    • POSE is more about not as well established projects -- in Yarik's opinion would have been too hard to sell for phase I. For phase II (with I) as well unclear if would fit ok

  • more feasible replacement (June 04, 2025): NIH. "Building Sustainable Software Tools for Open Science (R03 Clinical Trial Not Allowed)" Candidate development target/topic/theme: "Tooling/support for BIDS Plugins"

  • what should this proposal cover?

    • extensions but not in the sense of BEP

    • establishing common principle standards and wrapping this around tools

    • pyBIDS?

    • CM: suggest to not call this a BIDS extension, its too confusing with BEPs (possible rename to 'plugins'). Happy to be in the loop. Also suggest to reach out to maintainers.

    • KR: Link with Bridge, identifying gaps into the standard. May be able to propose things in the coming months.

BEP 28 : provenance

  • BEP is being revived/revisioned

  • CM & YH will meet to discuss comments.

  • DH: there are more researchers using prepocessed or aggregated (e.g. average, derivatives) data, thus BIDS-Prov will have high value. This is likely due to a growth of users accessing shared data (secondary data analysis)

  • Can BIDS-prov support multiple analysis pipelines of the same dataset?

    • comparing workflows is an open problem, BIDS-prov might be a first step in BIDS being able to do this.
    • W3C Prov comes in many ways and has many uses, something for the BEP authors to discuss (tooling language vs human language).
    • CM: there needs to be some flexibility to adapt to differences in user needs
    • YH: table discussion for 2025 👍
    • YH: relevant publication

Maintainers Updates

  • Location of maintainers meeting: suggests for it to be in EU so that its not only in the USA

  • Meeting Agenda: What should be addressed? (BEPs, other?)

  • Meeting Length: 2 days was too short, 3 days may be better

  • CM: is all the BIDS funding in USA?

  • YH: majority is in US, Cyril might have some.

  • Suggested location/venue: France, INRIA maybe (Camille can support, venue would be gratis), Copenhagen is another option.

  • RB: if EU does not work out, we can still fall back on Seattle or other US location.

  • Workshop Focus:

    • YH: BEPS, BIDS2.0, maybe a grant proposal (Ross please share the grnt call with other maintainers)

BIDS email

bids.steering@gmail.com is the new email for BIDS steering group.